The Holy Shift Show

What does it actually look like to love your neighbor? And have you ever wanted to love well but realized you didn't quite know how?

Jesus said love your neighbor as yourself. He didn't say love your neighbor from a safe distance, with good intentions, when it's convenient. So what does real, costly, cross-cultural neighborliness actually look like? And why is the church still struggling to get there? Our guest, Chanté Griffin, not lonly lives this work, she literally wrote the book on it. 

Chanté is a literary artist, journalist, actor, and author of Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself: A Guide to Closing the Space Between Us. Her work sits at the intersection of racial equity, faith, and communal wellness, and she brings all of it to this conversation with warmth, wit, and a willingness to go there. 

In this episode, Chanté and Christine dig into the Good Samaritan not as a familiar Sunday school story, but as a radical, costly, cross-cultural act of love that Jesus held up as the standard. They talk about what keeps well-meaning white Christians stuck, why healing has to start inside the church before it can speak to the culture, and what it actually looks like to show up in a new community without making people your project.

This conversation is an invitation to learn, to receive, and to love the way Jesus did.

What if misreading women’s stories in scripture means we’ve been missing something essential about the heart and character of God?

Dr. Sandra Glahn — theologian, professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, and author of the forthcoming A Woman's Place Is in the Story — joins Christine for a conversation that is equal parts scholarship and soul care. Dr. Glahn has spent decades asking the questions most people are afraid to ask: Where are the women in Scripture not coming through in translation? Where have they been vilified, minimized, or missed entirely? And what does it cost us — men and women alike — when we get the story wrong?

In this episode, Christine and Dr. Glahn revisit specific biblical women's stories with fresh eyes and explore how reclaiming women’s stories doesn’t just dignify women — it restores our picture of the Storyteller himself.

This one is for the recovering legalist, the wounded churchgoer, the woman who's wondered why God seems to have more to say to everyone else than to her. Because as Christine promises, “The deeper we dig, the gooder God gets.”

What if the thing you've been trying to avoid is the very thing that heals you?

We don't know how to grieve. Not really. We've been taught to hurry our grief, spiritually bypass lament, and sanitize our suffering — leaving a lot of us with an “emaciated theology of suffering,” and no place to take our pain.

In this honest and tender conversation, Bible teacher, author, and award-winning broadcaster Rebecca Carrell joins me to talk about what it means to grieve well. We dig into why deep grief is not a lack of faith but an alignment with the Holy Spirit. We walk through what Jesus's response to Mary and Martha teaches us about showing up for people in pain. We talk about why a good ugly cry is one of the most healing things you can do. And we wrestle together with one of the hardest truths about grief: that it isn't one loss. It's a thousand small ones, stacked inside each other, resetting every time you wake up.

If you've ever been told you're too tender, too emotional, or too slow to heal — this episode is for you. If you've ever stood at the edge of someone else's grief and not known what to do — this one is for you too.

Grief is not the enemy of faith. It never was. Let's make the holy shift.

What if the freedom you’re desperately seeking only comes through surrender?

Bestselling author and trauma survivor Mary DeMuth returns to The Holy Shift Show to explore one of faith’s most challenging paradoxes: we can’t control our way to peace—we have to learn to let go.

If you’re struggling with cynicism, exhausted from trying to control everything, or frustrated by how long it takes to heal, this episode offers both validation and gentle encouragement. Mary reminds us of the upside-down kingdom truths that sometimes God takes a long time to do something suddenly, and freedom comes only through surrender.

What if the noise in your life is drowning out the voice of God?

For the final episode of the 2025 Draw Near Dwell Well Series, Christine chats with soul care extraordinaire Andrew Ranucci about why silence and solitude are essential for spiritual, mental, relational, and physical health. Andrew unpacks the difference between self-care and soul care and helps us understand why silence and solitude feel so uncomfortable and what they reveal about our image of God.

What if the uncomfortable emotions you're experiencing aren't sins or failures, but invitations?

In this raw conversation, Christine chats with Christy Boulware, author of Nervous Breakthrough, to talk about stewarding our mental and emotional health. This isn't about quick fixes or spiritual bypassing—it's an honest exploration of recognizing our emotions as information and invitations that deserve attention, not shame.

Christine and Christy share the messy, honest reality of stewarding emotional health while following Jesus. Most importantly, they offer what so many need to hear: "I believe you. You're not crazy. You deserve help."

Join Christine for a powerful conversation with relationship expert Bob Hamp as they explore what love does (and doesn't) look like, why mutuality is vital in healthy relationships, and how many of us have misunderstood both the mission and the two-become-one mystery of marriage.

Bob breaks down the patterns that define destructive relationships and why some people feel entitled to demand that others become less so they can feel like more. From misassigned responsibility to weaponized theology, they discuss how flawed or misguided teachings about submission, gender roles, and "dying to self" have damaged countless marriages and driven women away from the church. They also explore how both partners must remain whole to experience the oneness God intended.

If you're struggling in a relationship or supporting someone who is, this episode offers clarity, validation, and a path toward the dignity and unity God designed.

Join Christine for a special bonus episode featuring her personal therapist, Crystal Logan. They dive deep into the role and purpose of emotions and explore why grief, trauma, and hurt often need to be addressed in the body, mind, and spirit. Crystal also explains how therapy and prayer intersect, and self-compassion helps us heal. This is an intimate conversation about the peace and freedom we experience when we learn to be still in Jesus’ healing presence.

We're all feeling overwhelmed, distracted, and somehow still disconnected despite being "connected" 24/7. Our generation might just be the loneliest and most frazzled bunch to date! Christine chats with author Laura L. Smith about how pressing pause, practicing gratitude, and noticing beauty can transform our relationship with God, ourselves, and others. They discuss how the Bible and neuroscience agree (how cool is that?): our hurried, distracted living is robbing us of the deep connections we were created for.

Exhaustion is an epidemic, especially for women. Christine chats with physician and author Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith about battling burnout and faithfully engaging with soul care through sacred rest. They discuss how rest and trust are connected and why most of us need more than a nap or a vacation to experience the restoration we yearn for. Dr. Saundra shares the seven types of rest needed to increase our overall happiness, overcome burnout, and live our best lives. If you’ve been fighting fatigue or battling burnout, this episode will guide you toward drawing near to—and dwelling well with—God through sabbath rest.